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Автор: Rok3r
Дата сообщения: 01.12.2002 20:08
Shelter
гы... =) Весь интернет чтоли обыскал?
Автор: Shelter
Дата сообщения: 01.12.2002 20:15
Rok3r
Нет, просто краткое описание не помешает.
Только без флейма.
Автор: Shelter
Дата сообщения: 04.12.2002 15:49
Пора бы "накопленный опыт" отсортировать по алфавиту, что ли...

А пока еще небольшая порция:

http://www.retouchpro.com/ Quite simply, RetouchPRO is a resource for anyone, professional or hobbyist, who is interested in photo restoration, retouching, and manipulation. Although most of our info is aimed at digital work, this is by no means limited to computer efforts. It is a place to learn, to teach, to share, to connect, and generally to talk to others with the same interests.

http://www.thewebmachine.com/ This site is devoted to Adobe products including Photoshop, Illustrator, LiveMotion, and Golive.

http://user.fundy.net/morris/redirect.html GFX^TM - From Trevor Morris - "Photoshop Tutorials, Actions, HotKeys, Lightwave 3D Models, Free Images and Icons"

http://www.macworld.com/1998/04/create/4265.html - Motion: Distorted Reality-the Magic of Displacement Mapping

http://www.adobeevangelists.com/ Adobe Evangelists - Beyound the manuals - Julieanne Kost, Daniel Brown, and Tim Cole.

http://www.teamphotoshop.com/ This site lives and breathes Photoshop. Lots of good information including tutorials

http://www.acky.net/ Tutorials and then more tutorials. They aren't all related to Photoshop.

http://www.digitaldog.net/tips.html Tips & Tricks and Articles. All files require Acrobat Reader.
A ".pdf" files is a Acrobat file. Acrobat is a cross-platform document that can be read on any machine that acrobat reader is installed. Visit http://www.adobe.com to download a free copy.

http://www.mos.org/sln/Leonardo/ExploringLinearPerspective.html Exploring Linear Perspective. This is not a tutorial on PS, rather an explanation of perspective. This knowledge is important when you are adding an object to an existing photograph. The proper perspective will make the altered image look realistic.

http://www.wacom.com/index2.cfm Wacom has some very nice tutorials for Photoshop on their site.

http://www.photoshopfocus.com/cool_tips/ps5_scan_ACE.htm Another site devoted to Photoshop. Jim Rich is the author of the Photoshop Grayscale Book.

http://www.computerarts.co.uk This is a great site, not only tutorials on Photoshop, but many others programs, plus html. It is also a real (comes out in printed format) magazine.

http://www.bizark.com/tuts/ps.html Not a lot of tutorials, but worth a trip and the author promises to add more.

http://www.ex.ac.uk/~jastaple/photoshop/searchframe.html An online database of photoshop sites. You can query for a specific affect that you are trying to achieve.

http://www.magicpixel.com.au/magicpixel/html/workwel.html PS tutorials including some tips on scanning and correcting scan problems.

http://www.screamdesign.com/ OK again another PS tips site, but you never know this site might have just exactly what you need. Besides you can't have enough PS tips and tutorials sites in your Favorite/Bookmarks can you? They have added a lot of Flash information.

http://www.adscape.com/eyedesign/photoshop/four/index.html This site cover only version 4, but still covers some information that is not found on other sites. Check out the filter section. This is also a very nicely designed site.

http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Way/9252/photoshop.html The link address says it all. There seems to be a never ending supply of web sites on Photoshop. That says something about the program and the folks who use the program.

http://www.cyberinkdesign.com/tutor.htm Photoshop Tips & Techniques. Some on version 4 and some on version 5.

http://hem.passagen.se/stefwest/pstrix.html More PS Tips and Tutorials. The author writes for version 5, so some of them are really needed as version 5.5 allows you to do this automatically. But the Frames tutorial is definitely worth reading through.

http://www.elated.com/toolbox/photoshop/ No words are needed, you know the drill, just read any of the above.

http://www.espressographics.com/text/desktop.html Tips on Photoshop with more web stuff thrown in

http://www.absolutecross.com/tutorials/photoshop.htm Photoshop tutorials

http://www.actionfx.com/ Photoshop action resource

http://www.icenter.net/~huebs/gdlinks/photosho.htm A graphics designers guide to the galaxy - videos for sale on learning Photoshop. Note this is not an endorsement of this product. I have not used them. I have no opinion about the videos.

http://freespace.virgin.net/eye.eye/ Photoshop Tips and Tricks by Shangara Singh

http://www.netins.net/showcase/wolf359/adobepc.htm PC Resources for Photoshop

http://www.eyewire.com/tips/ Tutorials on Photoshop and other products..

http://www.photoshopdiva.com/

http://www.creativepro.com/story/feature/11242.html Out of Gamut: (Almost) Everything You Wanted to Know about Sharpening in Photoshop but Were Afraid to Ask

http://www.geocities.com/nessele/ Eric's Photoshop Tutorials

http://www.wwwebmasters.net/ Graphics World - tutorials on Photoshop and Illustrator

http://www.actionaddiction.com/

http://www.photoshopcafe.com/

http://www.ps6.com/

http://www.screenz.de/main.shtml

http://user.fundy.net/morris/redirect.html?photoshop14.shtml

http://www.adobeevangelists.com/

http://members.home.net/ps-tutorials/

http://members.ozemail.com.au/~binaryfx/PSTV_links.html

http://www.russellbrown.com/

http://www.goranation.com/photoshop/index.htm

http://www.arraich.com/intro.htm For beginners

http://www.rainworld.com/oe_99/forge/ps_tut/index.frame.html Welcome to the PS Workshop! Your premier Photoshop tutorials search engine! These Photoshop tutorials are the properties of their respective owners, and are linked directly to the individual tutorials on their sites. Bet you never knew growing your brain could be so much fun

http://www.phong.com/

http://www.deepspaceweb.com/ - If you're a Photoshop enthusiast, you've come to the right place for free resources and help. Simply use the menu options on the right to go directly to your favorite section. However, this site offers much more to everyone who visits. Feel free to wander around my free scripts and tips sections for up-to-date articles on web design and web development.

http://www.eyeball-design.com/tutorial_newset.htm - A lot of very good tutorials on FX design in Photoshop.

http://www.findtutorials.com/default.asp - This site has tutorials on a wide range of topics.

http://www.deezin.com/ This site includes design tips, tricks, tutorials, techniques, and lessons that can help you grow as a graphic and web designer. This site is intended for photoshop artists, graphic artists, web designers, illustrator and freehand users and the like. You've found a database of design resources - including actions, filters, listing of stock photography online, clipart, pagesets, fonts, textures, templates, software, hardware, books, and job resources.

http://www.perfectpixels.com/ Photoshop and Illustrator tips, tricks and tutorials that really work along with some tutorials on Director, Premiere and other cool stuff.

http://www.planetphotoshop.com/ The Web portal for Photoshop resources and information.

http://www.savvy.net/photoshop.htm Complete list of tutorials for Photoshop.

http://www.webdevelopersjournal.com/hubs/ponyhub.html The Creative Side of Web Development Ponytails - Lots of tutorials on a variety of subjects - all creative web developing. Read!!

http://www.designsbymark.com/pstips/index.shtml The opening page on Marks Photoshop tips. The gentleman does know Photoshop.

http://www.rspark.com/

http://www.peimag.com/site_central.htm

http://www.photoshopcentral.com/ Welcome to Photoshop Central, the center of the Photoshop universe. We've designed Photoshop Central to be your portal to all of the useful knowledge on the Web relating to our favorite image editor, Adobe Photoshop.

http://www.hotwired.com/webmonkey/graphics_fonts/tutorials/tutorial1.html Photoshop Crash Course

http://www.adobe.com/studio/tipstechniques/photoshop.html - Some very good tutorials from Adobe. They are step-by-step, but you have to use your own image. Adobe adds to this all the time. Definitely worth a visit. They also have tips and tutorials listed here for all of their products.

Doctor Ozone' Hands On Tutorials

PC Resources for Photoshop - A multitude of resources, including tips and tutorials, other links to plugins, and much more.

Dsigning.com - A wealth of tutorials plus other goodies.

Hand-coloring photographs in Photoshop

Digital Mastery - Bill Willmore, author of Photoshop 5 Studio Techniques has added this site to supplement his book. There are some tips and tutorials. Think about buying his book, it is worth the money.

http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Quad/2237/tips.html Haus of Photoshop - tutorials

http://ruku.com/howto.html A nice list of tutorials for a lot of different graphics programs.

http://the-internet-eye.com/ Internet Eye magazine - Graphics for the Internet - There are a lot of tutorials here, not only for Photoshop
Автор: Shelter
Дата сообщения: 05.12.2002 21:15
И еще небольшой списочек - теперь включающий рейтинг для наглядности:


http://www.absolutecross.com/
A tutorial for making designs with round edges.
rating: 6/10

http://www.actionfx.com/
A nice tutorial site for the basics of photoshop. Here you learn what each tool is used for.
rating: 7/10

http://www.adobeevangelists.com/
some tutorials containg information on how to use some effects in photoshop.
rating: 7/10

http://www.adobe.com/webstudio/
An official tutorial, released by adobe. In this one you learn how to get proffesional in blending layers.
rating: 8/10

http://development.alpha-project.net/tutorials.html
A nice site for tutorials for photoshop. Here you can find tutorials for text effects, the basics and many other tutorials.
rating: 8/10

http://www.stab.se/aq/ny/pstips/fwf_all.htm
Containts some various nice tutorials for photoshop. Although the tutorials are for pretty basic things, still very nice.
rating: 8/10

http://ard.virtualave.net/frame.htm
Contains some various photoshop tutorials. Not really much, nor very good tutorials.
rating: 6/10

http://webreference.com/graphics/column36/
Another site with tutorials about the basics of photoshop. In this one, the basics are well explained.
rating 8/10

http://www.bizark.com/
A site containg some nice tutorials for photoshop. From basics to Intermediate tutorials.
rating: 7/10

http://www.bluesfear.com/
A good tutorial section, containing tutorials for photoshop, swish, and 3d studio max.
rating: 9/10

http://www.webdevelopersjournal.com
A site, containing some tutorials for photoshop. Too mutch text, but too little images.
rating: 5/10

http://www.candeekis.com/alltutorials.html
A site containing many tutorials for paintshoppro. Some nice tutorials.
rating: 7/10

http://www.cbtcafe.com/photoshop/
Although these are one of many basic tutorials for photoshop, they are one of the bests.
rating: 9/10

http://builder.cnet.com/
Not many tutorials for photoshop, nor good ones.
rating: 6/10

http://www.computerarts.co.uk/tutorials/2d/
Pretty much, and pretty good tutorials for photoshop.
rating: 9/10

http://www.cyberinkdesign.com/tutor.htm
Some intermediate tutorials for photoshop.
rating: 7/10

http://misery.subnet.at/
A site containing some medium and easy tutorials for photoshop.
rating: 7/10

http://www.deepspaceweb.com/
five sections of tutorials for photoshop. basic, text, interfaces, special, and photo.
rating: 8/10 STJДR BAKGRUND!!!

http://www.dsigning.com/
This site containts a large section of tutorials about effects on text in photoshop. Also some basic tutorials.
rating: 7/10

http://www.deviantart.com/
Needs no explanation.
rating: 10/10

http://www.digital-creativity.co.uk/
A pretty large section of photoshop tutorials. From medium to intermediate.
rating: 7/10

http://www.digitalthread.com/
An unclear site, containg some photoshop tutorials.
rating: 5/10

http://www.distortion.co.uk/freebies/tutorial.html
A site containging a medium amount of basic/easy photshop tutorials.
rating: 6/10

http://www.dreaminfinity.com/tutorials/ps.shtml
A nice site containging a large amount of tutorials for photoshop. from easy to intermediate.
rating: 9/10

http://www.edevcafe.com/docs.php?type=tutorial&catid=24
A site containing few photoshop tutorials, and 2 tutorials for fireworks 4. Few, but nontheless not too bad.
rating: 7/10

http://www.geocities.com/nessele/
some tutorials for photoshop, i believe i have also noticed some psp tutorials.
rating: 6/10

http://erk.free.fr/
Site containing 5 different photoshop tutorials. all at medium experience level.
rating: 7/10

http://www.evening.demon.co.uk/articles.html
Various photoshop tutorials, from easy to medium level.
rating: 6/10

http://www.exquisitedesign.com/
A site containing some bare tutorials for photoshop.
rating: 5/10

http://www.extremeflash.com/ or http://www.flashkit.com
This is one of the best sites for flash tutorials. Highly recommendable for flash tutorials
rating: 9/10

http://www.eyeball-design.com/fxzone/frames01.htm
This site contaings a large amount of photoshop tutorials. Another recommendable site. Tuts variating from easy to intermediate.
rating: 9/10

http://www.eyewire.com/tips/photoshop/
A site containing a lare amount of tutorials for photoshop. Some nice tutorials are between them.
rating: 8/10

http://www.freegraphics.com/10_Tutorials/Photoshop/
This site contaings some nice tutorials for photoshop. Most of them are easy/medium.
rating: 7/10

http://www.webspace.com.br/opus/web3.htm
This site is a bit strange. Contains some tuts about the effects in photoshop i believe.
rating: 6/10

http://geda-online.com/
A nice site for intermediates in photoshop. The tutorials differ in experience level from intermediate to expert.
rating: 8/10

http://www.gifart.com/graphictips5.shtml
a site with a pretty large amount of photoshop tutorials. Various from medium to intermediate.
rating: 7/10

http://gliebster.com/
Another site with a medium amount of tutorials. The tutorials are for intermediates to experts.
rating: 8/10

http://www.2ginc.com/tutorials/ps.html
Nice tutorials, 20 in total, for medium to intermediate.
rating: 8/10

http://www2.gograph.com/fusion/EN/
Lots of tutorials, experience level from beginner to medium
rating: 7/10

http://graphicssoft.about.com/
A tutorial to make a snow globe.
rating: 6/10

http://user.fundy.net/morris/
A very nice site, containing very nice tutorials. Recommended by me. All the tutorials differ in experience level.
rating: 9/10

http://www.gurusnetwork.com/
A very good photoshop tutorial site. Medium amount of tutorials, good explanation level, experience level differs from medium to intermediate.
rating: 9/10

http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~mr_jr/tutorials.htm
Tutorials differ from easy to medium. Pretty nice, although not too much tutorials.
rating: 7/10

http://www.hyperpark.com/
Large amount of text effects for photoshop. Also contains some miscelanious tutorials.
rating: 7/10

http://www.icehousedesigns.com/tutorials/photoshop/
Not too mutch, and not too good tutorials for photoshop.
rating: 6/10

http://the-internet-eye.com/HOWTO/default.htm
Large amount of tutorials, also much for psp.
rating: 6/10

http://www.myjanee.com/jnetuts.htm
Medium amount of tutorials, most of them with basic information.
rating: 7/10

http://jereme.gfxsites.net/
Little amount of tutorials, none the less, pretty good tutorials. Medium-intermediate.
rating: 8/10

http://www.jlswebsource.com/tutorials.html
Three different types of tutorials, text effects, fundamental, and miscellanious. Medium-intermediate.
rating: 8/10

http://pionet.net/~jzeman/tips/contents.html
Some basic tutorials for photoshop and html.
rating 7/10

http://www.iboost.com/build/software/pshop/index.html
Medium amount of tuts for photoshop. medium-intermediate is the experience level.
rating: 8/10

http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/
A tutorial on photo editing for photoshop.
rating: 7/10

http://mccannas.com/pshop/photosh0.htm
Large amount of photoshop tips, various from medium to intermidieate.
rating: 6/10

http://www.neofrog.com/
Some very nice tutorials for photoshop. From beginner to intermidiate.
rating: 9/10

http://www.opticnurve.com/
Some pretty nice tutorials for photoshop. They cover the basics, and some for intermidiates.
rating: 8/10

http://orgcon.jlswebsource.com/tips.html
Some tutorials for photoshop. Not too much, and not too good...
rating 6/10

http://www.piscespub.com/pcpp50.html
Various tutorials, for various programs. I couldnt check them all, but its not too bad.
rating: 7/10

http://www.perfectpixels.com/index.cfm?method=photoshop
Some pretty nice tutorials for photoshop. Medium to intermediate.
rating: 7/10

http://www.phong.com/tutorials/
A very good and nice tutorial resource. Very nice photoshop tutorials. This site is also recommended.
rating: 9/10

http://www.planetphotoshop.com/tutorials.html
Another very good photoshop tutorial site. I recommend you check this one too.
rating: 9/10

http://www.poidesign.com/
Not too much, but pretty nice tutorials for photoshop none the less.
rating: 7/10

http://www.pragt.net/
4 different photoshop tutorials, and they cover the basics.
rating: 7/10

http://www.rainworld.com/oe_99/
a nice site for photoshop tutorials. I would definetly recommend this.
rating: 9/10

http://www.afn.org/~afn07395/
This is a very nice tutorial on how to make seamless textures. Level is intermediate.
rating: 8/10

http://www.shortcutcentral.com/
Here you can see all the shortcuts for photoshop. Nice if you like.
rating: 6/10

http://www.sketchpad.net/photoshp.htm
A large amount of photoshop tutorials. The tutorials differ from grade to medium-intermidiate.
rating: 8/10

http://learn.smartplanet.com/
A high amount of tutorials for different programs. Seems all very nice.
rating: 8/10

http://webdeveloper.com/html/html_table_splicing.html
A tutorial on how to slice images in photoshop.
rating: 7/10

http://www.spoono.com/
We all know this site. Very good, with very nice tutorials.
rating: 10/10

http://www.webslave.dircon.co.uk/photoshop/
Some different tutorials for photoshop. Medium grade.
rating: 6/10

http://www.stewartstudio.com/tips/phototip.htm
Pretty large amount of photoshop tutorials. Many text effects.
rating: 8/10

http://strider-web.virtualave.net/
Some very nice tutorials, for all grades. beginner, intermediate and advanced.
rating: 8/10

http://www.sev.com.au/dtpzone/phtips.asp
Little amount of tutorials for photoshop.
rating 6/10

http://members.tripod.com/~rddesign/prof.html
medium amount of photoshop tutorials. Most of the tuts are for experts.
rating: 7/10

http://www.teamphotoshop.com/
Very nice site for photoshop tutorials. Another recommendable.
rating: 10/10

http://twh.telefragged.com/
different nice tutorials on various programs, including photoshop.
rating: 7/10

http://www.wastedyouth.org/
Another vйry good site, with very good tutorials for various programs. I recommend it.
rating: 10/10

http://www.webclass-101.com/photoshop6.shtml
beginner and intermediate tutorials for photoshop.
rating: 7/10

http://wdvl.com/Authoring/Graphics/
A sort of log file on the learing curve of photoshop. Seems nice.
rating: 8/10

http://www.geocities.com/vitseeus/photoshop_recipes.htm
some average text effect tutorials for photoshop.
rating: 6/10

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Автор: Smash
Дата сообщения: 06.12.2002 20:49
Народ, нужны какие-нить ресурсы по DirectX, толко не что-то вроде:"как сделать игру за 2 часа для ламеров", а где теории побольше, история создания, структура, алгоритмы и т. д. Мне для курсача... Заранее благодарен.
Автор: Shelter
Дата сообщения: 07.12.2002 14:34
Smash
А при чем здесь этот топ?
Прочитай внимательно название.
Автор: Smash
Дата сообщения: 07.12.2002 16:37
Shelter

Цитата:
А при чем здесь этот топ?

Сорри, но раз уж спросил...
Автор: Rok3r
Дата сообщения: 09.12.2002 21:20

Цитата:
Сорри, но раз уж спросил...

Но раз уж спросил - раз уж и не ответим.

Мужики, а есть какие-нибудь линки, как рисовать полный дизайн или что-то типа такого. Я вот не догоняю, мысли есть что сделать, то есть фантазия работает.
Туториалами тоже начитан. Но как это объединить в одно целое не могу.
Кто-нибудь поможет?
Автор: Rok3r
Дата сообщения: 14.12.2002 16:01
Люди, ну что все прицепились к Photoshop'u?
Он популярен, но есть ведь и другие хорошие программки.
Если не тружно дайте уроки по
Adobe Illustrator 10,
Macromedia Fireworks MX и
Macromedia FreeHand 10.
Автор: Shelter
Дата сообщения: 14.12.2002 17:17
Rok3r
Просмотри все сайты в этой ветке - здесь достаточное количество сайтов с уроками и по указанным программам.
Автор: Rok3r
Дата сообщения: 14.12.2002 17:21
Shelter
Ну дай пожалуйста тогда. Раз ты писал их сюда, значит большинство ссылок знаешь, а количество такое пересмотреть, я не смогу. So, хелп ми.
Автор: Shelter
Дата сообщения: 14.12.2002 18:08
Rok3r
Говорят, обычно в таких случаях помогает www.about.com

Adobe Illustrator:
http://graphicssoft.about.com/cs/illustratortuts/

Macromedia Fireworks:
http://graphicssoft.about.com/cs/fireworks/

Macromedia FreeHand
http://graphicssoft.about.com/cs/freehand/
Автор: Rok3r
Дата сообщения: 14.12.2002 18:11
Shelter

Цитата:
Говорят, обычно в таких случаях помогает www.about.com

Прикола не понял

А за линки пасибо.
Автор: Gumanoid
Дата сообщения: 18.12.2002 06:44
у меня есть в ХТМЛ на русском :

Цитата:
Иллюстрированный самоучитель по Adobe Photoshop
Уроки Photoshop: Реалистичная текстура под дерево
Уроки Photoshop и Illustrator: Эффекты с использованием слоев
Уроки Adobe Illustrator: Маленькие хитрости
Уроки Adobe Premiere: Создание специальных эффектов
Уроки Adobe Premiere: Оптимальноя скорость передачи данных
Уроки Adobe Premiere: Работа с маркерами. Ключевые фрагменты проекта
Adobe Acrobat 5.0

Все готово к использованию, тока вот залить некуда, 71.5 метров надо
если есть какие то холявные хостинги дающие столько места я залью. (народ.ру не придлагать там ФТП нет)
Автор: Aleek
Дата сообщения: 18.12.2002 07:24
Gumanoid
mojesh zalit' mne. kanal bustriy. smiotri pm.
Автор: Shelter
Дата сообщения: 18.12.2002 08:47
Gumanoid
Имхо легкий .
У меня есть 8 CD с книгами, уроками, интерактивными и видео-файлами, обучающими программами и т.п. Только уроков к версиям 5-.0-7.0 более 12.000. Довольно полезный материал, подбирался очень тщательно. Залить куда-то даже не предлагаю.
Автор: Gumanoid
Дата сообщения: 18.12.2002 09:03
Shelter
Почему ?
выложить его и пусть народ просвещается...
меньше вопросов задавать потом будут...
ведь инфы на русском не так уж и много...
или из соображений обьёма ?
Автор: Shelter
Дата сообщения: 18.12.2002 09:08
Gumanoid

Цитата:
Почему ?
или из соображений обьёма ?

Именно по этой причине.

Добавлено

Цитата:
ведь инфы на русском не так уж и много...

А я разве говорил, что материал на русском?! Как раз наоборот.
Автор: Rok3r
Дата сообщения: 18.12.2002 14:59
Aleek
Gumanoid
Ну что залили? Если да скиньте в ПМ линочку, обязательно скачаю. Пожалуйста.
Автор: Aleek
Дата сообщения: 18.12.2002 21:04
Gumanoid
smotri PM
Автор: Rok3r
Дата сообщения: 18.12.2002 21:12
Aleek
Он не залил ещё?
Автор: Aleek
Дата сообщения: 19.12.2002 00:53
Rok3r
shas skidivaet, ostalos' ne mnogo
Автор: Rok3r
Дата сообщения: 19.12.2002 18:56
Aleek
Угу, скинишь линку в ПМ.
Автор: Rok3r
Дата сообщения: 23.12.2002 12:19
Aleek
Ну что, слил?
Автор: Rok3r
Дата сообщения: 05.01.2003 10:49
Пару русских ссылок:

Adobe Photoshop:
http://webg.ru/photoshop/

Macromedia Flash:
http://webg.ru/flash/

MS Frontpage:
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Автор: Qm
Дата сообщения: 08.01.2003 22:39
Спасибо за ссылки, почерпнул кой что интересное)Спасибо
Автор: Rok3r
Дата сообщения: 12.01.2003 14:52
R e g i s t r y
Да он жадничает что-то, не даёт.
Автор: Aleek
Дата сообщения: 13.01.2003 19:55
Rok3r
а ты спрашивал?
Автор: KirillForever
Дата сообщения: 17.01.2003 12:41
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Первый пост обновился - ещё около 40 ссылок...
Автор: Rok3r
Дата сообщения: 18.01.2003 21:33
Aleek
пм

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